Well I was a engineer but looking at this and knowing there was a pilot on board and the Capt being very close how come one or both did not see this unfolding.Perhaps there was a issue with contacting tug,tugs.We will see but i,m going to say Pilot and he was in to much of a rush to get docked.We will follow it,interesting.
I guess having a few shots of Cuervo before your shift was a bad idea .Bwahaha ? (maybe if your co-workers like you they’ll pitch in and buy you a nice sign will work for food !!!
Its got to be the fault of the captain attempting to come along side, presumably the pilot hands back to the captain once safely in the port? Or is that not correct? If not the fault would lie at the feet of the pilot?
Pilot and Tug Pilots. Yes, it’s the responsibility of the Captain to ensure cargo is secured, however, with guidance like that, that brutal force and momentum, will break lashings and cargo will come free.
Ojoj ujuj!!!!! Snabblossning!!!! Såg du han som hoppade iland med en resväska medans sista containern föll??? De va skepparn!!! Hahahaha…… Ååååååååååååå fy fan döö!!!! 🙂
Life of seamen specifically Master is not easy what you think…you can feel the difficulty…nervousness…when external forces will be against you..e.g.winds..current..waves.swell…fogs..etc..nobody could blame anybody coz you are not there…you can tell n prove yourself if the responsibility already lay in your shoulder…Only God can tell..
Risk assessment are vital during such manuever, although there is/are pilots onboard, as Master of the vessel, he has all the right to take over any situation if he finds that the safety of his vessel is at stake. Be safe everyone!
Some guy found $700 in a bag near my local station. He tried to give it to a police officer, but the officer thought it was a prank & wouldn’t accept it, so the guy went & bought a phone with the money, but this is where it gets hilarious. He thought the phone didn’t work, so he started tapping the screen.
Le responsable reste le Commandant !!! car le pilote n’étant qu’un conseiller technique à la navigation, il est dégagé de responsabilité. Je rappelle au passage que l’obligation d’un Capitaine vis à vis du pilote est de le “payer” même s’il ne l’utilise pas et même s’il se plante.?
It’s totally the fault of the vessel that’s happily moored up for having that spoon bow shovelling off the containers of the other boat trying to parallel park…loool. Seriously though, why the hell would you approach the berth so close to someone else…my guess is there is a decent onshore breeze. I think ultimately the blame lies with an endemic attitude that has developed where common sense has been replaced with ticking boxes simplified enough so the lowest common denominator can work…not just in marine industry but all industries. As long as there is insurance though, nobody gives a shit.
Master of the vessel is responsible, the pilot is onboard on advisory service, however, in this case, await the investigation outcome, as there are many factors involved in this incident which lead the vessel to be in a compromising situation..!
Whether HapagLloyd chooses to share the lessons learnt from this one, I wonder?
Dont worry, they will claim General Average and the shippers whos containers are ok will pay. Do not forget to get insurance on your containers!!! Look it up in Hague-Visby law
Captain has the ultimate responsibility for his vessel and to make sure his cargo is secure. The marine pilot is responsible for the safe passage of the vessel in and out of port once he is onboard.
Well I was a engineer but looking at this and knowing there was a pilot on board and the Capt being very close how come one or both did not see this unfolding.Perhaps there was a issue with contacting tug,tugs.We will see but i,m going to say Pilot and he was in to much of a rush to get docked.We will follow it,interesting.
I guess having a few shots of Cuervo before your shift was a bad idea .Bwahaha ? (maybe if your co-workers like you they’ll pitch in and buy you a nice sign will work for food !!!
Its got to be the fault of the captain attempting to come along side, presumably the pilot hands back to the captain once safely in the port? Or is that not correct? If not the fault would lie at the feet of the pilot?
The pilot just warns the captain about nautics maniobring inside of the harbour ,I believe in this case having the blame the own captain.
Pilot and Tug Pilots. Yes, it’s the responsibility of the Captain to ensure cargo is secured, however, with guidance like that, that brutal force and momentum, will break lashings and cargo will come free.
Ojoj ujuj!!!!! Snabblossning!!!! Såg du han som hoppade iland med en resväska medans sista containern föll??? De va skepparn!!! Hahahaha…… Ååååååååååååå fy fan döö!!!! 🙂
Life of seamen specifically Master is not easy what you think…you can feel the difficulty…nervousness…when external forces will be against you..e.g.winds..current..waves.swell…fogs..etc..nobody could blame anybody coz you are not there…you can tell n prove yourself if the responsibility already lay in your shoulder…Only God can tell..
It’s only one place on earth where the whole responsibility of the vessel belongs to the pilot. It’s called Panama Canal.
Risk assessment are vital during such manuever, although there is/are pilots onboard, as Master of the vessel, he has all the right to take over any situation if he finds that the safety of his vessel is at stake. Be safe everyone!
In other word ‘who shud be blamed. Well someone has to be held accountable rite so the rest can move on operating as usual
don’t they usually have cranes to take the containers off? lol! Man that camera work was crap, he should go and have a drink! hahahaha
No the responsibility is from all
Because.these is a team work.and who ever incharge.but the cap will hear from the client
Russians, it’s there fault 100%. Pilot will of been Russian (Soviet) and operating on behalf of Putin. Fact
Ladies and gent Dont blame any still the incident need an investigation to verify who’s responsible and must involve the p&i club.
Captain has the responsibility for his vessel and the pilot is responsible during the maneuver.
Some guy found $700 in a bag near my local station. He tried to give it to a police officer, but the officer thought it was a prank & wouldn’t accept it, so the guy went & bought a phone with the money, but this is where it gets hilarious. He thought the phone didn’t work, so he started tapping the screen.
The idiot kept tapping & tapping on …..See More
I guess, it happened due to longway bridge bazar conversation about amount of cartoons of the malboro pilot wants 😀
Le responsable reste le Commandant !!! car le pilote n’étant qu’un conseiller technique à la navigation, il est dégagé de responsabilité. Je rappelle au passage que l’obligation d’un Capitaine vis à vis du pilote est de le “payer” même s’il ne l’utilise pas et même s’il se plante.?
It’s totally the fault of the vessel that’s happily moored up for having that spoon bow shovelling off the containers of the other boat trying to parallel park…loool. Seriously though, why the hell would you approach the berth so close to someone else…my guess is there is a decent onshore breeze. I think ultimately the blame lies with an endemic attitude that has developed where common sense has been replaced with ticking boxes simplified enough so the lowest common denominator can work…not just in marine industry but all industries. As long as there is insurance though, nobody gives a shit.
Next time you can find even cheaper workforce; so the results and incidents can be even more pathetic
Master of the vessel is responsible, the pilot is onboard on advisory service, however, in this case, await the investigation outcome, as there are many factors involved in this incident which lead the vessel to be in a compromising situation..!
Whether HapagLloyd chooses to share the lessons learnt from this one, I wonder?
Dont worry, they will claim General Average and the shippers whos containers are ok will pay. Do not forget to get insurance on your containers!!! Look it up in Hague-Visby law
Captain has the ultimate responsibility for his vessel and to make sure his cargo is secure. The marine pilot is responsible for the safe passage of the vessel in and out of port once he is onboard.
Camera man is the responsible man and the one to blame for this accident
Still try to put the blame on a truck driver